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Debating A Southerner (3): Prof. Jok Madut Jok
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Aug 9, 2010 - 10:09:09 AM

DEBATING A SOUTHERNER (3): Prof. Jok Madut Jok

 

Prof. Jok Madut Jok:

Born in Bahr Algazal in Southern Sudan.  PhD, University of California.

Associate professor of history, Loyola Marymount University, California. Author of �War and Slavery in Sudan� and �Sudan: Race, Religion and Violence.�

Recently, both of us participated in an e-mail debate about the future of the South.  He was the only Southerner among a group of Northern academics, journalists and writers.

Here are some of his comments and my responses.

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 Jok:

�What explains this sudden outburst of a non-genuine cry for a paradise lost?�

 

Me:

Don�t you know terms like: �nationalism,� �patriotism� and �pride�?

1. You are a history professor; don�t you know the history of the French nationalism (starting in 1789) and the German nationalism (starting in 1815)? 

 

2. You follow the news; don�t you know that the Germans and the French are now leading Europe towards a �European nationalism� that will supersede boundaries, languages, ethnic groups and religious sub-groups?

3. You studied in Egypt; didn�t you hear the Egyptians proudly singing �Biladi, biladi, biladi, laky hobi wa fo�adi� (My country, my country, my country. My heart and my mind belong to you)?

4. You have been in American for many years; didn�t you hear Bruce Springsteen

signing: �Born in the USA�?

 

5. You are a Sudanese; didn�t you hear the national anthem saying: �In da�a da�i alfida lan nakhn. Natahada almot ind almihan� (When sacrifice calls, we don�t retreat. We challenge death in times of disasters)?  Do you know that a Northerner wrote the words and a Southerner wrote the music?     

 

The Sudanese nationalism is centuries-old; long before Islam and Arabism.  The Nubia�s kings were Black and pagan, and the Alwa�s kings were Black and ardent Christians.

 

For centuries, the Sudanese, Northerners and Southerners, sacrificed for their country.  Ali Abdulateef, leader of 1924 revolt against the British rule, was a Southerner.

Brother Jok:

You call this �non-genuine cry for a paradise lost�?

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Jok:

�It is cheap for all of you to be crying at this hour.�

 

Me:

It is cheap of you to say this is �cheap.� Most of the time, while working on the computer in my office in the National Press Building in Washington, DC, I listen to Radio Omdurman. Last week, my tears ran down when  Ahmed Almostafa sang my favorite nationalistic song: �Ana Omdurman.� 

 

He sang: �Ana ibn al shamal sakanto galbi, ala ibn al janoob damait doloo�i� (I put the Northerner in my heart and the Southerner in my chest).

Strange that I cried!

I have been living in Washington for more than 30 years. More than 20 years ago, I became an American citizen.  I swore allegiance to the US.  I don�t use the Sudanese passport.   I rarely visit Sudan.  Recently, I started feeling I am part of this Great Western Civilization, this White Christian Civilization.

But, as much I feel I am an American, I feel I am a Sudanese.  Actually, the more I feel American, the more I feel Sudanese.  Therefore, I believe the unity of Sudan is as important as the unity of the US.

Brother Jok;

You call crying for the unity of Sudan �cheap�?

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Jok:

�It is cheap for a few medical students from Khartoum University to embark on a caravan to the South, to give Aspirin to Southern people.�

 

Me:

I heard about that on Radio Omdurman.  Again, my tears ran down when the group, after arriving in the South, sang a nationalist song I still remember from Argo Elementary School. 

 

In Sudan�s geography class, I studied Mungo (St. Mungo) Zimbiri, a Southern boy in Yambio. At the end of the lesson, the whole class stood up and cheerfully

sang: �Anta sudani wa sudani ana.  Damana alwadi faman yafsilona. Mungo, qul la asha man yafsilona. Qul ma�ee la ash man yafsilona� (You are a Sudanese and I am a Sudanese. The Nile Valley unites us.  Mungo, say death to whoever wants to separate us. Say with me, death to whoever wants to separate us).

Brother Jok:

You call this �cheap�?

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Jok:

�I was in Khartoum last month.  For the first time since I was in high school,

22 years ago � My encounters with would-be fellow countrymen, revealed to me still, how we are really not going to be able to maintain a unified nation. With such racism that infiltrates every interaction.�

 

Me:

I have been living in America for more than 30 years.  Twice I was called �Nigger� in my face.  Few times, I felt rejected by some people, probably because I am a Muslim, Arab and African � or might be I made a mistake or misbehaved. 

 

I have learned not to pay attention to other people and not to let them define my identity. My three half-White-half-Black children grew-up and are gone. But, when they were young, I repeatedly advised them to do the same.

Brother Jok:

Please don�t let others define your identity.

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Jok:

�Tonight I am writing from Damazin (Blue Nile State, Sudan) and the attitude has not changed between the few northern Jallaba in the market and the dark-skinned people.�

 

Me:

This exactly illustrates your problem.

I don�t wake-up every morning and look at the mirror to see whether I am black, or white, or green or orange. My color doesn�t have anything to do with my identity.

 

I repeat: My color doesn�t have anything to do with my identity.

The core of my identity is my faith (I could have been a Christian, a Jew, worship a cow, a tree, or a kojor).  Then, comes my mixed Arabic and African culture.

Brother Jok:

Try not to have your blackness as a core of your identity.

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Jok:

�When I was checking into the hotel, the lady at the reception asked for my passport, which I presented, and while holding my Sudanese passport in her hand, she still went ahead and asked me what nationality I was. Without shame she said �I thought you were from South Africa,� my Sudanese passport and all.�

 

Me:

I would have said: �No, Ma�am.  I am a Sudanese and a very proud one.�  Also, I would have added a joke: �Wish I were from South Africa; could have watched the World Cup final between Netherland and Spain at Soccer City Stadium.�

I used to tell my children: �Take a joke, make a joke.�

Brother Jok:

Take a joke, make a joke.

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Jok:

�What does one say to such attitude? The only thing I can say is that enough is enough.  If I have an opportunity to vote for separation, I would do it with a blink of an eye, problems in the future or not.�

 

Me:

Despite the huge differences between Sudan and the US, I believe they are

similar in one important aspect: diversity of races and religions.

 

On Sudan, I agree with you on more issues than you may expect; the Jallaba, the

slave trade, the discriminatory Khartoum governments and the horrible wars in

the South.   

In the US, the Whites traded in Africans and discriminated against them for a

long time. The Blacks, rightfully, fought for freedom and equality. Now, there

is a Black President, Obama.  I have never heard Obama talking about slavery.

So, why don�t the Sudanese Southerners learn from the experience of their

brothers, the Black Americans? Why don�t you stop talking about the past?  Why

don�t you put an end to your anger?  Why don�t you open a new page?

The word �Nigger� will never disappear in America; there will always be people

who insult others. Similarly, the word �Abid� will never disappear in Sudan.

Do you really want to break-up a great nation and make the Sudanese cry because

you thought a receptionist in a Damazin hotel insulted you?

 

Brother Jok:

My tears run down every time I think of the possibility that the Sudan would be

divided. The closer the referendum gets, the more that happens. Recently, like a

crazy person, I started singing Sudanese nationalistic songs (like �Ana

Omdurman� and �Mungo Zimbiri�) while walking in the streets of Washington, or

walking around Burke Lake (5 miles circle), near where I live, in Burke, a

suburb of Washington.

I think that, if in January the Sudan will officially break-up, I will die from

a heart attack. At my old age, I proudly welcome that.

And you call this �cheap�?

Brother Jok:

I forgive you. Just let us hold hands and sing another old Sudanese

nationalistic song: �Yei baladna, wa kolona ikwan.�  English: �Yei, (capital of

Central Equatorial State, in Southern Sudan) is ours, and we are all brothers.�

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