قد تضيف جديدا و أن لم تحسم جدلا , بحوزتى الآن الوثيقة, الأتية أسمائهم مدعوون لهذا الرابط!!

Quote: All the preprogrammed members of this forum should take notice and rethink their position, because it makes no sense that, what was done by one of our symbols of failure in 1953 creates such a controversy. We live in a different world; nevertheless, these endangered species of dinosaurs are succeeding once again to make the lives of the Sudanese people miserable by misleading them to follow their footsteps of failure. I cannot wait to see all these dinosaurs finish each other up so everybody can restart building a modern Sudan that is free from their intimidating dominance.

Quote: This report is what is called an Open Source Report, by which a reporter identifies and monitors all available information sources of the issue, then uses these information in his or her reporting. All information in such reports should be easy to verify. Every Foreign Service agency of western countries uses this reporting method to monitor social and political activities. This reporting is distinct and completely different from the espionage activities, which depend largely on agents (human intelligence), and theses activities go beyond mere reporting. In this case, the CIA would only use this report (if it uses it at all) for its future planning of any espionage activities related to the communism in Sudan. To analyze and conclude if someone is a CIA’s agent should never be based on Open Source Reporting. It has to be based on the documents of the Agency itself, its affiliates or counterpart agency in case of double agents. The CIA follows very disciplined and sophisticated guidelines in protecting its agents depending on the nature of services these agents provide. However, sometimes the CIA does reveal the names of its agents and its activities. This can take place in different ways. One way, when the agency uses a subject to do a onetime task. The recent example of this is the case of the former Iraqi minister who received a hefty payment and a promise of protection in exchange of information related to Sadam’s final plans. Sure, the Agency assures his safety during the fall of Saddam and he is now working as a professor somewhere in the Middle East under an assumed identity. The second way, when the Agency is put under pressure by the media, the Congress or the American public as represented by the civil and legal organizations. An example of this took place few months ago when the Agency declassified and released the documents related to some of its specific espionage activities during certain period. You can read these documents by googling Family Jewels and you can find information about attempts to assassinate Castro and actual assassination of Lommba. The third way is the routine release of the documents that are no longer need to be kept secret. We should note that, the documents released by Agency are always redacted by removing certain names and information whenever there is still need to be protected. In case of Mansoor Khalid, I do not expect to see any of the CIA’s documents with his name on it because he is still kicking and there is a need to protect him ( some of you may not agree, but it is not up to any of us). In fact , Aballah A. Ibrahim knows that he can not prove Mansoor is or was a CIA’s agent, this why he called him a snitch. Finally, these available documents do not prove or disprove the fact that Mansoor is or was an agent, and as I said , doing either takes more than reading such reports and playing the naïve minds of the ignorant on both sides, and I’m taking no side in this murky debate. Just, as history goes on, we will know who was an agent of what agency and who was not. Having said this, I have to admit my astonishment of seeing most contributors to this post writing while they are already made up their minds, even before the documents were posted. This is very alarming by showing us to which extent, the generation of these two men has damaged and poisoned the future of the Sudan. The controversy is not about whether or not Mansoor is a spy, it is about the last episode of the failure of his generation. The members of this generation, which includes most of the current established dinosaurs, are seeing most of their lives are now behind them. They are fighting their last battle. It is for their legacy, and because nothing left to fight over, their battles turned personal. This is because, for all of their lives, they have never believed in a Sudan that is beyond their personal achievements. Amazingly, they have never lost their sense of entitlement, even to the way how history should judge them and the others. It is over for them, even if they do not admit it. What a waste…… All the preprogrammed members of this forum should take notice and rethink their position, because it makes no sense that, what was done by one of our symbols of failure in 1953 creates such a controversy. We live in a different world; nevertheless, these endangered species of dinosaurs are succeeding once again to make the lives of the Sudanese people miserable by misleading them to follow their footsteps of failure. I cannot wait to see all these dinosaurs finish each other up so everybody can restart building a modern Sudan that is free from their intimidating dominance. Sai

Quote: الألخ عادل البدوى أتفهم وجهة نظرك و لكنى اري فيها شىء من العدمية فالأهتمام بمثل هذه القضايا قديم قدم البشر و لربما كانت المشكلة في عدم مناقشة هذه القضايا في منابر لأشخاص ذوى أهتمامات مشتركة

Quote: لابد من ان ندعم دعوتنا للتحول الديمقراطي بعزيمة قوية للتخلص من امراض الماضي من أقصاء و تناحر عبثي

Quote: سبهللية السودانيين و تبرعهم المجانى بالمعلومة امر له علاقة بالموضوع و هذه ملاحظة قد تاكدت لي صحتها في السنوات الماضية و هي تتجاوز العمل السياسي الي غيره ولكن النقطة الأساسية التي وصلت اليها هي استحالة قراءة هذه الأوراق خارج سياقها التاريخى

(عدل بواسطة Adrob abubakr on 09-03-2007, 05:50 AM)