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 Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 (Re: AnwarKing)
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Some observations about 4.3 clause came as comments on the threat that discusses 4.3
(all represents the original poster's opinion)*:
1- Clause 4.3 contradicts Clause 10 of the Facebook Principles:
"4.3 You will not use Facebook if you are located in a country embargoed by the U.S., or are on the U.S. Treasury Department’s list of Specially Designated Nationals."
"10. One World. The Facebook Service should transcend geographic and national boundaries and be available to everyone in the world."
2- 4.3. is a damned outrage. Racist censorship.
3- Of course- the thought that the US is embargoing any nation is stupid.
4- Does this mean that because their governments are run by dictators, Cuban, Iranian, and Burmese students are no longer able to use Facebook? That sucks.
5- Why should someone be excluded from using Facebook just because their government doesn't bow to the US.
6- The facebook principles blabber about making the world a more transparent place. if facebook legally bound to keep people from embargoed countries from using the service? this should DEFINITELY be clarified. seems to be at odds with a lot of facebook's "principles"
7- This is discrimination. Why should you void the right of communication and self-expression over the free and open medium of the Internet through facebook for people located in countries for which the US government thought it will be OK to forbid trading with the rest of the world?
8- That is surely illegal? To alienate an entire nation of people from a supposedly 'open' social networking site (who, I might add, promote people to join the site with "Anyone can sign up") because the United States Government doesn't agree with their Politics. That is essentially racism, it is certainly a form of persecution.
9- This is completely contradictory of Facebook Principle 10 which states “The Facebook Service should transcend geographic and national boundaries and be available to everyone in the world.” Therefore, as the principles have been presented as the foundation of these so-called “Rights and Responsibilities” it is clear that 4.3 needs to be amended.
10- If FB has to abide by US law due to location of servers etc. I'd have to make a personal decision based on my political opinions as to whether to continue using FB once the T&C have been implemented.
11- 4.3 Why can't we use Facebook if we're located in the Balkans, Belarus, Myanmar (formerly Burma), Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Liberia, North Korea, the Palestinian Authority, Syria, Sudan and Zimbabwe???
12- In 4.3, Facebook is taking a specifically political stance on an issue that should not concern them. Furthermore, the facebook Principles say that Facebook should be GLOBAL, and 4.3 is in direct contravention of this principle.
Saying one thing should be done while continuing to do the opposite is the sincirest and most depressing form of hypocrisy.
13- Does this rule violate the spirit of the "One World" provision in the Proposed Facebook Principles? I do not see why citizens of countries embargoed by the United States should be denied access to Facebook, particularly given its goal of creating more communication and transparency. About a year ago, Cuban students made bold to challenge their government's restrictions on internet access in a public forum - their ability to connect with other students around the world should not be limited from this end.
14- [4.3] is clearly unacceptable: it infringes people rights and freedom
15- That doesn't make any sense and is pretty nationalistic.
16- 4.3 suggests that it is primarily a US community, and discriminates against certain countries.
17- Facebook Servers must be moved out of USA if it will block people according to the US regulations
18- I can understand sex offenders and kids under 13 years of age, but nations embargoed by the U.S.? That is just ridiculous. Politics have no role in controlling the internet because the internet is governed by us the users, not corporations, not companies, and certainly not by government.
19- I'm researching about protecting/preserving Individual's privacy in the Database and Data Mining ... Why should I help humanity in protecting their privacy, while my Humanity is not protected!
20- There are already profiles on this site whether they are real or not (and if not I refer to point 4.3) of prolific sex offenders from the UK and I would suggest these are removed!
21- 4.3 contradicts the one world principle, although I suppose it's probably required to adhere to US law. Shame.
22- [4.3] Doesn't affect me, but it seems to clash with [Principle 10].
23- For making the world more open and transparent [4.3] must be removed.
24- Either 4.3 should be removed entirely or, what is probably more likely, is that facebook's claim to be "globally unified" needs to change to something more like:
"Facebook wishes to transcend national and geographic boundaries as long as you are not an enemy of the US."
Section 4.3 goes against everything that these new terms and principles seem to be aiming at.
25- 4.3- Not sure. So facebook is only available to people in U.S. friendly countries? If that is the case, I highly disagree. Does this apply to users under different law, say in France?
26- [4.3] This conflicts rather obviously with Facebook Principle #10: One World
The Facebook Service should transcend geographic and national boundaries and be available to everyone in the world.
I suppose it's too much for me to ask that Facebook ignore US law, but some thoughtful peaceful protest might be in order here. Would it be appropriate to ask Facebook to take a political position here (i.e. Facebook will comply with the embargo, but doesn't like it)?
27- It's inconsistent to the principle of equal treatment.
28- Why should Facebook be an agent for implementing US foreign policy? Would Facebook be breaking any US regulations by providing their free service to people of a country under embargo?
29- Section 4.3 is contradictory to Facebook's stated intent to provide means for global interaction. How awful to deny convenient means to organize and share information to those who may need it most. Is Facebook legally not able to allow an account to residents of countries embargoed by the U.S. ? If so, what an ignorant and outdated restriction.
30- [4.3] This section needs to be removed! It directly conflicts with the proposed principle #10.
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1~30 is available it their original form here:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=67758697570&topic=7568#topic_top
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 المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:17 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:19 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:20 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:21 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:22 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:23 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 03:28 PM |
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| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 04:53 PM |
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| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 04:59 PM |
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| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 05:21 PM |
| Re: المقاطعة الإقتصادية الأمريكية على السودان وآثارها الممتدة منذ العام 1998 | AnwarKing | 03-02-09, 05:32 PM |
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